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Post by Phobic of Tragedy on Apr 3, 2005 23:40:06 GMT -5
uh excuse me? abortion IS brutal and it DOES "put and end to the baby" and it DOES "murder their chances" of becoming anything in life. so yes, abortion is murder. Abortion is most definately not brutal, when done legally. I'd really only consider partial birth abortion brutal. It does put an end to the fetus, but it doesn't do so unlawfully. And it may murder their chances, but that one could go both ways-it could "murder" their chances in succeeding, but could also "murder" their chances of growing up in an unstable household wiht a mother who didn't want them. |
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Post by JCsAngelPen on Apr 4, 2005 14:46:56 GMT -5
yes
1) it is the killing of an innocent human being
is that not murder?
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Post by Phobic of Tragedy on Apr 4, 2005 15:12:59 GMT -5
yes 1) it is the killing of an innocent human being is that not murder? It's not unlawful. It's not murder. |
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Post by Heather on Apr 4, 2005 18:44:41 GMT -5
I agree..........With Laila and not because she is my cousin. No I don't agree. And this is a worthless debate if that's all you're going to say. Got a reason to back up this claim? |
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Post by |9/\/y on Apr 4, 2005 21:37:37 GMT -5
of course it is murder. how is it not?
what are you people on?
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Post by Phobic of Tragedy on Apr 4, 2005 22:14:03 GMT -5
of course it is murder. how is it not? what are you people on? What are *you* on? How many times will I have to point this out before it will become clear? It is not unlawful. And it shouldn't be either. |
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Post by Jewbread on Apr 4, 2005 22:20:04 GMT -5
well, as there are living cells, and you are killing them, i still feel its murder. just because its legal, does not mean its not killing. but, i still agree that abortion should be legal.
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Post by ava on Apr 4, 2005 22:29:27 GMT -5
well, as there are living cells, and you are killing them, i still feel its murder. I kill living cells everytime I scratch my arm, that isn't murder. Murder = killing a person person = born zygote/embryo/fetus = not born Therefore, abortion != murder |
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Post by Jewbread on Apr 4, 2005 22:33:36 GMT -5
Murder = killing a person mur·der (mûr'dər) n. 1. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice. 2. Slang. Something that is very uncomfortable, difficult, or hazardous: The rush hour traffic is murder. 3. A flock of crows v.tr. 1. To kill (another human) unlawfully. 2. To kill brutally or inhumanly. 3. To put an end to; destroy |
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Post by Heather on Apr 4, 2005 22:54:25 GMT -5
This is a really dumb thing to be arguing about.
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Post by Jewbread on Apr 4, 2005 23:00:04 GMT -5
true, but i feel is murder in a moral sense, not a legal sense, and i shall therefore be an *** about it.
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Post by stardust15 on Apr 5, 2005 11:05:23 GMT -5
It's not unlawful. It's not murder. So, if killing adults and children became illegal, it would not be murder because it's lawful? This is a really dumb thing to be arguing about. Actually I think this is one of the most non-dumb things to argue about - whether a baby is a living human or not. Deciding on when exactly life begins is very important. Abortion is brutal, and not just partial-birth abortion. Not only does the baby experience much pain while being either ripped apart with medical tools, burned alive in acid, or killed in other ways, but in some cases the mother feels pain. I have read numerous accounts of women who've gone to Planned Parenthood facilities to get their abortion; some women were treated very badly. Careless doctors accidently ripping apart part of their internal organs while destroying the baby, and then letting the women walk through the exit doors to come back soon after complaining of major ammounts of pain. Some have died. When you scratch your arm, are you killing cells that are part of another human with a completely seperate DNA system? No. When you kill a baby, you are. Arguing that a baby in the womb is just "part of the mother" is ridiculous. If it's part of the mother, why does she have two heartbeats? |
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Post by Lady on Apr 5, 2005 14:19:22 GMT -5
Let me put it this way..... some say that babies that are not yet born really aren't ALIVE. and having an abortion is not really KILLING. If you are one who thinks this, then do something for me. Go to a woman who is expecting. ask her if she actually believes that what is *GROWING!!!!!!!!!* inside her is alive. i can positivly tell you she will say yes. She will tell you that she can *FEEL* the LIVING THING inside of her.
let me ask you a couple of questions.
1)do non-living things GROW?
2)Do non-living things KICK while they are inside the womb?
NO ,they don't. so i feel that this bears repeating........... THERE IS ALMOST NEVER A GOOD REASON FOR AN ABORTION!!!!!!!!. it is NOT lawfull. and it is most certainly MURDER! if any one thinks otherwise,which all of you are intitled to an opinion, i would like you to look it up in the bible! then come back here and tell me if the BIBLE agrees with abortion. if it does (which i know it doesn't) then i might just change my mind.
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Post by ava on Apr 5, 2005 15:55:18 GMT -5
Do you believe that cracking an egg is the same as killing a chicken, or that breaking a pinecone is the same as cutting down a pine tree? |
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Post by ProphetessOfGod89 on Apr 5, 2005 16:42:45 GMT -5
Life begins at conception.
"It's not unlawful. It's not murder. "
So if it is lawful it is right? Think if your mom aborted you because it was lawful? You would be dead- not terminated!
~Amanda
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