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Post by Skylarking on Apr 5, 2005 23:57:41 GMT -5
2)yes, the world is overpopulated but thats b/c of peoples stupid mistakes, should we really punish the innocent for that(oh, and don't call me DEAR!) No. The world started getting overcrowded during the introduction of international trade and the Industrial Revolution, among other things. Besides, you don't know crowded living here in good ole America sweetypie.
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Post by Phobic of Tragedy on Apr 6, 2005 0:04:12 GMT -5
2)yes, the world is overpopulated but thats b/c of peoples stupid mistakes, should we really punish the innocent for that(oh, and don't call me DEAR!) Yes, I don't get your point. Putting children up for adoption isn't helping the overpopulation. However, abortion is (even if in a small way) keeping it from growing. 3)if we keep killing off the unborn then who do you think will give birth to the next generation. yes the earth may be overpopulated but it still could die out.maybe not anytime soon, but it could happen. you never know whats going to happen in the future We're not killing off every unborn child. Again, there is no need to worry until everyone becomes unsteril. I'm not going to be worried until there is no need for orphanages and shelters. 4)No, i am not playing God. How can i be playing God when i am simply voicing my opinion. i am not holding a gun to your head saying " if you have an abortion i will kill you".i can't TELL people what to do or what to decide. i can just simply tell them a differnt point of view. people have choices (maybe too many choices) which i can't make for them. I didn't say you were holding a gun to my head. I'm saying that you're playing god while being anti-choice just as much as I'm playing god while being pro-choice. 5)this goes along with # 1. as to all things there are exceptions. like complications in giving birth. but as for abuse, i think adoption should most certainly be answer Adoption isn't a simple process. Sadly enough, abortion is the easy way out. But it's better than a life of abuse, despite this. 6)please explain better i don't fully understand. You say we're "only human beings and shouldn't have the decision of whether someone lives or not" yet you seem to very clearly want to decide for us all that abortion is not that answer and that every fetus/unborn child should live.
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Post by Lady on Apr 6, 2005 0:15:29 GMT -5
Yes, I don't get your point. Putting children up for adoption isn't helping the overpopulation. However, abortion is (even if in a small way) keeping it from growing. We're not killing off every unborn child. Again, there is no need to worry until everyone becomes unsteril. I'm not going to be worried until there is no need for orphanages and shelters. I didn't say you were holding a gun to my head. I'm saying that you're playing god while being anti-choice just as much as I'm playing god while being pro-choice. Adoption isn't a simple process. Sadly enough, abortion is the easy way out. But it's better than a life of abuse, despite this. You say we're "only human beings and shouldn't have the decision of whether someone lives or not" yet you seem to very clearly want to decide for us all that abortion is not that answer and that every fetus/unborn child should live. 1)yes, i agree overpopulation is a problem but i don't think killing is the answer 2)again, you never know what the future holds 3)this is all opinionated, no ones actually playing God until we actually take it into our own hands 4)adoption may not always be a simple process but its simple enough. my parents adopted me when i was 9 days old and adopted my brother when he was 5 and it took them 2 weeks to get him.(yes i am adopted thats why i feel so strong on this subject b/c i don't even want to think about it if my mother had aborted me) 5)again all opinionated, just b/c i may WANT something doesn't mean that its happening or going to happen
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Post by Lady on Apr 6, 2005 0:19:23 GMT -5
I bet you think your real smart don't ya......................HON!!!
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Post by Skylarking on Apr 6, 2005 0:21:25 GMT -5
I bet you think your real smart don't ya......................HON!!! Well you must think that of yourself, completely ignoring my response to you, and trying to mask it with a "wity" comment. So what is? Colonization in space?
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Post by Lady on Apr 6, 2005 0:32:28 GMT -5
Well you must think that of yourself, completely ignoring my response to you, and trying to mask it with a "wity" comment. So what is? Colonization in space? 1) i didn't mean to ignore your respose. actually i responded to it it just didnt show but if it will make you feel better i wrote that people have been making stupid mistakes for a long time 2) haahaa very funny. NO, i just dont think killing innocent babies is a good problem solver. i mean i was all for the war in Iraq. I think those........people shouldv'e paid for what they did. murder is always going to happen, its just i dont think babies should have to be the victim and everyday normal women be the murderers
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Post by Lady on Apr 6, 2005 0:34:31 GMT -5
I guess thats a good way to put it
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Post by Phobic of Tragedy on Apr 6, 2005 0:36:38 GMT -5
2) haahaa very funny. NO, i just dont think killing innocent babies is a good problem solver. i mean i was all for the war in Iraq. I think those........people shouldv'e paid for what they did. murder is always going to happen, its just i dont think babies should have to be the victim and everyday normal women be the murderers Except for the fact that abortion isn't murder. Funny you can support killing innocent children, but you can't support the choice to terminate a fetus.
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Post by godchick244 on Apr 6, 2005 0:45:49 GMT -5
Except for the fact that abortion isn't murder. Funny you can support killing innocent children, but you can't support the choice to terminate a fetus. I don't think thats quit what she meant. i agree i dont think that abortion is good, but i do support war. the death of innocent children was an accident and not planned. but with abortion, its thought about,carefully and then its carried out just so this is pointed out cuz it seems to me that everything has KINDA been "my word against yours" on this post, everything here is OPINIONS. some people believe that abortion is not murder, others believe it is. i personnaly believe it is but i will respect everyone elses opinion as long as they respect mine
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Post by Phobic of Tragedy on Apr 6, 2005 1:06:20 GMT -5
I don't think thats quit what she meant. i agree i dont think that abortion is good, but i do support war. the death of innocent children was an accident and not planned. but with abortion, its thought about,carefully and then its carried out No, it is expected that innocent people, including children, will die during war. It is the plan to kill anyone who gets in the way, so in a way, it is planned for. War is thought out very carefully and then carried out also. Except with war, you're killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people (and children). With abortion, you are terminating a fetus. (Also, this is the debate board. You can't stop if from being your word against mine, or else it wouldn't be a debate.)
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Post by godchick244 on Apr 6, 2005 1:28:14 GMT -5
(Also, this is the debate board. You can't stop if from being your word against mine, or else it wouldn't be a debate.) True very true
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Post by hoarpumpkin on Apr 6, 2005 6:45:15 GMT -5
Heh heh, if there were the case, I would have been aborted for sure then. ^_^ Most of us would have PARASITIC human beings. No; a human who is hazardous to your health. Or hitler, osama, stalin, etc I'm personally in favor of killing with good reason rest of reply later
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Post by Lady on Apr 6, 2005 10:25:55 GMT -5
Most of us would have PARASITIC human beings. No; a human who is hazardous to your health. Or hitler, osama, stalin, etc I'm personally in favor of killing with good reason rest of reply later Man, y'all have issues. i am just trying to show the good in not aborting babies and all yall can focus on is the horrible horrible parts. everything is gonna have a good and bad side. its on how you look at it. yall depress me i am through with this debate. someone else wanna give it a go?
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Post by Shodan on Apr 6, 2005 10:35:47 GMT -5
Man, y'all have issues. i am just trying to show the good in not aborting babies and all yall can focus on is the horrible horrible parts. everything is gonna have a good and bad side. its on how you look at it. yall depress me i am through with this debate. someone else wanna give it a go? i am glad you are giving it up because this level of personal attack is not needed. if you cannot disagree in a civil manner, do not reply. on one hand you say that you are trying to show the good that comes from not aborting, but you admit that to all things there is both good and bad. by your own argument, considering the bad parts of not aborting is just as important as considering the good parts. likewise, if i put foward an argument showing the good that comes from aborting, you would be justified in pointing out the bad. by not allowing this, it would make it appear that abortion was all good/all bad, and very few people are willing to say that. most will at the very least allow for some grey area.
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Post by Lady on Apr 6, 2005 10:46:00 GMT -5
I will give up. i am not saying that i have changed my mind about this issue. but i know myself well enough to know that if i continue it will somehow turn into a personnel level. i am EXTREMLEY competitive and i don't accept defeat.i just know i will make it get out of hand so i will end with this.........
In my opinion, abortion is murder, and is very wrong, and does not coincide with Gods word. yet to all things there is a good and bad.
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