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Post by stardust15 on Apr 7, 2005 23:14:46 GMT -5
The calculation that the entire world population would fit into Jacksonville is based on the assumption that each person receives a 2 x 2 feet plot--i.e., 4 square feet--rather than 2 x 6 feet--i.e., 12 square feet, which is 3 times as much. This is SRO ("standing room only"), not room enough to lie down. That is correct. I never said it would be comfortbale or desirable to have all the world's population in one city, but it would be possible nonetheless. Now if everyone in the world could fit into one city the size of Jacksonville, then there is no problem living in the space of the entire world. The world is by no means "crowded." Everyone would receive a 4 square foot area to stand in then, not a 12 square foot area. Again, I didn't say it would be a comfortbale situation but only that it is possible. How is it erroneous? You just pointed out that the world's population could indeed fit into Jacksonville with a 4 square foot area of standing room. Yes, it's a big city. What about it? How does showing that Jacksonville is a large city somehow disprove the favt that the world's population could fit inside it? I don't see the relevance of this.
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Post by ava on Apr 8, 2005 7:21:38 GMT -5
More misleading than erroneous, because the calculation postulates a city wherein everyone is smashed together with only enough room to stand. Sure you could cram them in like sardines, but there is no way 6 billion people could actually live there. No, it isn't, that's what's misleading about the calculation. The city part itself is not very large, but the entire county area is counted within the calculation. Also, as Shodan pointed out, there is much more to overcrowding than just numbers of people; there is also the amount of resources consumed, reasonable living space, etc.
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Post by stardust15 on Apr 8, 2005 10:48:45 GMT -5
More misleading than erroneous, because the calculation postulates a city wherein everyone is smashed together with only enough room to stand. No it is not misleading, because I never claimed it would be comfortable, but that only that it is possible. The fact remains that the world's population could all fit inside Jacksonville. You cannot disprove this. I never claimed they could live there. Hence my long post on page 5.
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Post by ava on Apr 8, 2005 15:50:49 GMT -5
Actually, now that I do the math myself, it seems that even given only 4 sqaure feet per person, there is no way 6 billion people could fit into Jacksonville Florida.
4 square feet per person x 6 billion people = 2.4e010, or 24,000,000,000 square feet needed.
Jacksonville is 800 square miles. 1 square mile = 27,878,400 square feet.
800 x 27,878,400 = 2.23027e010, or 22,302,700,000 square feet in Jacksonville.
So no, they wouldn't all fit, they'd run about 2 billion square feet short.
Feel free to check my math though.
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Post by stardust15 on Apr 8, 2005 19:42:40 GMT -5
I believe it was you that first came up tih the 4 square foot area figure. If it was 3 square feet for everyone, then they would fit.
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Post by ava on Apr 8, 2005 20:19:15 GMT -5
I believe it was you that first came up tih the 4 square foot area figure. Indeed, you originally said 5 feet. edit to add that I just measured myself, and I'm nearly 2 feet wide; I doubt I'd even fit in a 3 square foot space, and I am not an relatively large person. 3 square feet is about a third larger than my computer screen, just to put it in perspective.
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Post by truelovewaits* on Apr 10, 2005 16:19:40 GMT -5
for me, the one thing that would be acceptable to have an abortion if it is going to kill the mom. but then i was thinking, the Bible doesnt say not to have an abortion UNLESS its going to kill the mom, the Bible says dont have an abortion EVER.
and god has a plan for everyones life, including a mom who may die from a pregnancy. so i have officially changed my opinion to: its NEVER okay to have an abortion.
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Post by Jewbread on Apr 10, 2005 17:01:40 GMT -5
but what if its gods plan for the mother to live and the child to die?
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Post by truelovewaits* on Apr 10, 2005 18:59:08 GMT -5
then he might make it born early and have heart problems and die right away, or a miscarrige or something.
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Post by Jewbread on Apr 10, 2005 19:03:02 GMT -5
or maybe he wants it this way, who are you to determine how god will inflict his wrath
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Post by Skylarking on Apr 10, 2005 19:14:03 GMT -5
silly scoot, Christians know exactly what god wants and can dictate his will 24/7
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Post by truelovewaits* on Apr 10, 2005 19:59:25 GMT -5
i am no one. God can do whatever he pleases. im just giving you other things he might do. youre right, God might have a plan for someone to have an abortion, so they could use that situation to help someone else. OR he might help a 12-year old rape victim who he knows won't be able to deliver the baby succesfully by making it a miscarrige. it can happen both ways.
Kinda: i am not God. obviously. i dont have the answer to everything. obviously. i am just trying to come up with possible solutions to what jewbread is saying. we are both playing the devil's advocate. so i would really appreciate it if you didnt make snide and sarcastic remarks about me. thanks.
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Post by Jewbread on Apr 10, 2005 21:44:28 GMT -5
i am no one. God can do whatever he pleases. im just giving you other things he might do. youre right, God might have a plan for someone to have an abortion, so they could use that situation to help someone else. OR he might help a 12-year old rape victim who he knows won't be able to deliver the baby succesfully by making it a miscarrige. it can happen both ways. so you want to make gods will illegal?
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Post by truelovewaits* on Apr 11, 2005 23:07:03 GMT -5
how did you come to that conclusion?
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Post by Jewbread on Apr 11, 2005 23:19:48 GMT -5
God might have a plan for someone to have an abortion here you say gods will may be for somebody to have an abortion yet you want abortions to be illegal, thus you want gods will to be illegal.
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